65 thoughts on “#StopBlamingWomenMakeMenTheIssue [Name Withheld]

  1. You are just doubling down on the misandry huh ? Rape culture is a myth perpetuated by crazy hair dyed feminists who think our culture condones rape when we do not. Sure do some rapists get off with bullshit sentences yeah Brock Turner should have been put in prison in general population where actual harden criminals would have made his life hell . Same goes for the kid fucker bus driver and any Muslim rape gang member .

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    1. I’ll handle the rest of your rants later, but for now, I’ll simply point out that men also commit far more of the violent crimes than women, and that men-on-men and men-on-women violent crime greatly exceeds women-on-women and women-on-men crime. You *know* this. You also know all too well that MRAs/MGTOWs don’t care one bit about this reality, and instead prefer to whine like entitled brats about non-issues.

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      1. Yeah cause female on male domestic violence does not matter it only matters when you can demonize men . As well female who manipulate men into doing things that harm themselves or others is great too huh

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      2. Not the argument I made, you really enjoy bashing those straw men don’t you? But then, little things like facts tend to evade your attention. It’s not an attack on men to point out the statistical truth that men commit most violent crime. Instead of whinging that pointing out facts is unfair, why not actually try to address the roots of this issue? Instead of your non-stop falsehoods about feminism, actually try to look at what the core of the problem is.

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      3. The root of many issues are shitty people exist and to some extent always will . Shitty people meaning both males and females something your side likes to deny that women can be shit too. You seemingly think that feminism and give up more power and control to women will solve everything when it will not . Any one murdered in cold blood is a travesty but your ilk only takes issue with it when you can blame men and use women as victims to push your agenda . If you really cared about society and violence at large you would focus on both genders not just women as victim and men as evil perpetrators. I do not expect you to do that cause the feminist bullshit in your head will not allow you to confront both sides of an issue you only see the ones side where women are innocent victims. Hell why not address the single mothers who abuse their kids . Hell you can even address the Female on female dv cases in same sex couples

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      4. More lies and distortions. Show me ONE occasion where I have claimed women do not commit crime or where feminism pretends women are perfect and all men are horrible. You know damn well the positions you argue (and the words you put in my mouth) are completely false, for we have had these discussions before. For all your talk of how I only see one side of the issue, you absolutely avoid the facts – and it’s a fact that men commit the majority of violent crime. You cannot and will not truly address why, instead preferring to hide from this truth and the reasons behind it, whilst kicking all kinds of dust to try and change the subject, or to create false equivalence. I have little patience for your dishonesty, but I will give you one chance to address the subject at hand – why do men commit the vast majority of violent crime?

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      5. Okay I will use feminist logic lol because toxic masculinity. But seriously Men have had to be more violent over the 100’s of thousands of years to both protect their lands homes families . Some men can not get past that. Some men misplace that energy and use it to harm others for no real good reason . Happy now ? Likely not huh

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      6. You were closer with your first suggestion, even if you choose to be blissfully unaware of it. History is not an excuse for why men continue to be more violent (and not just a little bit, but considerably). There is a culture of entitlement and belittlement and plenty of false ideas around what masculinity is, promoted even to this day by bullshit from MRAs and MGTOWs, who actually care nothing for men’s issues but instead do what you do – bleat and whine about feminism and women.

        Case in point, this argument. You’re trying to suggest there is equilibrium between men being violent and women being violent. Whilst I would agree that violent crime from any party against any party is wrong, when you have one party committing 88% of murders and 96% of domestic violence, is it right to ignore where the majority of that crime comes from, as you do?

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      7. You *do* ignore it. You hide in a cowardly fashion behind your false narrative that feminists demonise all men, which is not the argument of feminism and nor is it my argument, which you already know. Stop lying.

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      8. Feminism Demonizes Patriarchy who comprises paytrearchy ? Men so spin that yarn again pal . I am the coward really? Cause I reject gynocentrism and can see both men and women as flawed beings . Or because I can point out female evilness with no guilt . Sorry you will not convert me in to the religion of female worship aka Feminism

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      9. So in other words, yes, you do ignore the problem, and you spin a falsehood about my position yet again because you are indeed afraid to confront the actual issue. Thank you for confirming this.

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      10. Yes all men who act like men not soy loving bois are bad thank you for confirming my assumptions that you think all forms of traditional masculinity are bad .

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      11. Never made such an argument as you know, but by all means, continue to be a liar and continue to cowardly evade the point. I’ll give you one last chance to demonstrate you can show some growth and integrity before you’re banished back to your little echo chamber.

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      12. Ah so I must bow to your way of thinking? Sure some men not all have entitlement issues so do some women both genders can be greedy and feel the world owes them something . The world nor society owes anyone a damn thing . Pal you know damn well I do not see the world through the feminist lens .

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      13. Again you miss the point. I am asking you to understand that in situations where men create and perpetuate the majority of the issues, in particular issues that affect women, it is huge false equivalence on your part to whine that feminists don’t give men’s issues equal weight. Yes, both sexes can behave badly – but one commits more acts of violence against the other. Far more acts in fact. You’re arguing it’s not fair to point out the gross disparities in that regard, which equates to you wanting to bury your head in the sand.

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      14. Good cause I see your page as a prime example of Clown world … When the world is such shit all we can do is laugh to keep from falling . Facing your own mortality makes things much clearer . Testicualr cancer is a motherfucker but since I am a MRA/ MGTOW I will assume you think I deserve it due to karma or some shit cause I do not bow to feminism

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      15. I don’t care how you regard this page. Link to it as often as you like. I openly laugh at your ideas and arguments and anyone can see that. Whilst I have sympathy for anyone who has suffered from cancer, your notion that I (or feminism for that matter) would assume you deserve it is the product of warped thinking. Your misplaced anger is leading you to some very stupid conclusions.

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      16. So you wish to play the stereotype game whilst at the same time arguing stereotypes are unfair? Make up your mind as to what type of position you wish to take.

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      17. Not a Stereotype when figure head like Jessica Valenti and Big red and Jess Phillips laugh at male suffering and even suicide rates Jess refuses to give any time to male issues . Hell I may disagree with Carl Benjamin on politics but I support his cause of bringing up real mens issues

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      18. So shall we say Paul Elam (who supports convicted rapists getting away Scot free simply because women deserve it) as indicative of the entirely of the MRA movement?

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      19. Okay pal you can see it your way I have a different opinion . As do lots of others not in the feminist bubble . If you could one day look at things with out the feminist lens I think you and the people around you might be better off for it . I do try and see things from a non Mgotw lens .

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      20. I would recommend to you that you try and see things through another lens yourself. For your talk of not seeing through a MGTOW lens, that’s not what comes over from your posts or your site. Your on-going distortion of feminism is case in point.

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      21. I said I do not always do so . When I am confronting the bs of feminism yeah my MGTOW lens is in full force. I refuse to see feminism as anything but a force for socially acceptable misandry.

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      22. Your refusal is part of the problem. Your demand that others look outside their ‘bubble’ whilst you refuse to see beyond your own bias is hypocrisy.

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      23. When you are confronting any issue dealing with men do you put aside your feminist lens? You want to blame thing on the evil some men do . Do you think any non feminist man is a good man? . I can say you seem to be a good man just a bit misguided on gendered issue where you operate from the feminist view point . I do not hate you or wish you any ill will

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      24. It’s because of feminism that I am more aware of issues in society that harm men as well as women. The manner of thinking that insists women must behave in a certain way also locks men into self-destructive positions as well. MRAs have zero interest in actually dealing with any of that.

        And no, I don’t regard a non-feminist man as bad. Most people, men and women, are inherently good. As individuals, most of us are being carried by certain societal norms and expectations that might not even have a tangible impact upon us. Overall though, there are certain inescapable truths. The same societal imperatives that tell us women are weak and incapable of operating without male support (and therefore subordinate to men) tell us men should always be strong, not display emotion and place ourselves in harm’s way. Society – patriarchal society – tells us women are much better at parenting and this is why women are expected to remain at home and not try to advance their careers, whilst courts usually grant custody to women, because men are not considered to be as capable as parents. None of this is because of feminism but feminism *is* trying to change these painfully flawed ideas.

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      25. Okay Do you see me as bad for not bowing to the feminist narrative? Because MRA’s do not confront things in the manner Feminism does does not mean they do not care about the issues . Women are weaker than men that is a fact not a attack on them men tend to have more muscle mass . Women can operate with out male support most choose not to some choose to use sex based exploits to get their lives catered to . Fine if men or women wanna trade sexual favor for resources .

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      26. I don’t see you as bad. I see you as misguided. I have seen more from feminism in terms of addressing men’s issues than I have from MRAs. A lot more.

        I dare say when it comes to ‘sexual exploitation’, remember there is plenty of entitlement/expectation from men to have access to women’s bodies. There are still plenty of unreasonable notions around how women should be available for male sexual consumption, regardless of what the woman actually wants.

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      27. I will agree with part of that some men not all see it that way . I really have no use for a woman in my life. As well it would be unfair to have someone have to deal with my issues with trust and others stuff regarding relationships . There is no healing fully from what I have lived . I accept my past has turned me into what I am it opened my eye to things one can not unsee or unlearn .

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      28. Him calling for male victims of females to assault them while not the best idea any call to violence is wrong . Defending ones self is not wrong . I would hope anyone being attacked would fight back via any means

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      29. I do not trust it I looked at it brief enough to search what paul has said in his own blog . A voice for men is not a place I visit regularly . Paul while humorous to some extent has a very bombastic way of talking about issues . Now some places we agree other we are miles apart. No one figure head in the Manospere perfectly represents my views . In some ways I am a traditionalist but I reject certain notions . I am a proponent of male authority in a family dynamic but I do not think beating ones wife for not having diner on the table by 6pm is good . In other ways I am very very non traditional I do not think men must get married or provide for a woman to have worth . Any man can have worth without a woman . I have worth cause I help other men going through the red pill grief cycle also because I care for and take in stray dogs . I do many things that bring good into the world but from a feminist preservative I am wrong and bad because I reject their notions

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      30. In some cases no it is not fair sometimes stereotypes of both Feminism and MRA’s are fair since both operate from a certain view point. Feminism Operate from the stance all women are oppressed and they wish to Smash the patriarchy. MRA’s operate from a stance that the family court and certain aspect of society are very against men .

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      31. Feminism operates from the idea that men and women are not treated equally and works to address that. This includes looking at issues which affect men, which in my experience most MRAs don’t actually care about. They prefer to demonise feminism with falsehoods.

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      32. They point out places where feminism has placed road block in the way of the mens rights movement mostly when it comes to fathers rights . Some do bash on feminism but likewise some feminists do nothing but bash anyone who has any concern for the rights of men or who reject their notions .

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    1. Lolsy yes I am due to my own fucked up past and pathology I do not trust women . Not a damn thing wrong with being single but I am gonna guess you are going to call me an incel or some other pejorative cause I am not a good lil feminist slave boy

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  2. I have seen more from feminism in terms of addressing men’s issues than I have from MRAs. A lot more. Okay pal say I buy your line what has feminism done to help the cause of men’s rights . Cause from where I sit they have done less than nothing in fact they help keep things in place that discriminate against men . They prop up the bias family court and divorce court. They do nothing for men when it comes to unfair sentencing in fact some feminists want female jails abolished . They help keep the myth alive over circumcision. That is forced genital mutilation I say if fgm is to be illegal in western countries like wise for mgm I do not care if someones holy book says to do it . Barring some rare medical conditions circumcision should be made illegal for minor to have froce upon them by the usually female parent. Like I have stated men and women are not equals but if society want to play like they are laws should be equally applied to both . No more women who take advantage of teenage boys sex drive getting off free . No more judges giving lesser sentences to women because pussy pass . Boys will be boys shit does not fly anymore so Pussy pass shouldn’t either

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    1. You ask what feminism has done for men’s rights – well for one, feminism is trying to dismantle the ideas that prop up the very things you rail against in this post. You claim feminism is upholding bias in family courts – nope, you can thank age-old ideas around women and men being suited for specific roles for that one. Feminism doesn’t argue for this, old-fashioned patriarchal thinking is at work here, as you well know.

      You insist men and women are not equals – are there differences between men and women? Obviously – but how does this translate to not being equal? When you spout tired lines like this, then go off on a rant that has nothing to do with explaining how MRAs actually do anything for men’s rights, then I have to conclude you’re not interested in the subject at hand and want to move the goalposts every five minutes.

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      1. Really pal MRA groups and individuals do a lot to help men going through divorces that your side wants to keep one sided in favor of women getting life time Alimony . After a divorce the ex wife is owed nothing but what she came to marriage with not one red cent more. If he bought the house she can get the fuck out the day the papers are filed.

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      2. We’ve been over this. Your ilk want to maintain certain types of role in society for the sexes. You cannot whine about the unfairness of divorce laws when you simultaneously want to uphold the principles that maintain that unfairness. MRAs have done very little to actually tackle the underlying problems men face, as you know. Their preference (and yours) is to blame feminism over and over again, even after the facts have been laid out to you, repeatedly and in detail.

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      3. Well since the only so called facts you site only paint Feminism and the left as over all prefect and anyone on the other side ie MRA’s as villains. When feminism is a villain and certain mra are as well.

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  3. Okay one thing I will give you is feminism has gone out of its way to force feminize boys so they act more like girls and less like boys ie rough playful adventurous strong stead fast confident . Being masculine to most feminists is evil. Men are not devoid of emotion we just tend to keep them in check and deal with them our own ways at more appropriate times. They should not push to make men be baby soft emotional wrecks cause nobody finds that shit attractive. Real men handle our shit we have facial hair sometimes we smell of sweat smoke or grease and oil.

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    1. None of what you just stated is correct. Feminism does not regard masculinity as evil, merely the interpretation of it that funnily enough, you’re talking about upholding. You seem to think displays of emotion are a sign of weakness. You have this ‘real man’ notion in your head that appears to conform with old-fashioned ideas that would see to it men are forced into certain roles and women into others, whilst at the same time complaining about injustices that arise from those ideas. What if I were to say that real men are not afraid to display emotion and admit to weakness? You may not like that but your philosophy is why men often don’t feel they can talk about problems and issues.

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      1. Hey I never said real men do not show emotion most of tend to do it in private cause in reality nobody especially women cares about male pain or emotion . Men who break down and cry at everything are weak . Yeah I am in favor of certain old ways of being masculine you want to demonize that shit.Just cause you love getting facials manicures and pedicures with your wife does not mean all must comply with your standard . There are soft men like you then there are hard men who served their nations then there are guy who fall in the middle Feminism says its wants the effeminate men so they move to push the idea that all men should be that way . Men are not afraid to show emotion you are correct we choose to do it not while in crisis or while real shit has to be done we do it usually by ourselves or if we have close friends we do it with them while we vent . Hell I deal with my emotions by hitting a punching bag swinging a sledge hammer or some other activity . If I am depressed my old way of dealing with is drinking until I no longer care . Now I focus my mind on other shit or I write things up that are bothering me print it off then light the pages on fire . Bet you think all the ways I list are toxic cause I did not cry and become a emotional mess . Feminism just pisses me off cause y’all think the solution to everything is give more power and control to women cause oppression and such your side wants to flip the tables on men and oppress them for years like your side thinks men did 50 plus years ago . Gender roles are natural

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      2. Your post here is a gigantic series of contradictions and a demonstration that you have no real understanding of the issues we’re discussing. You say gender roles are natural then whine about the inequality of divorce laws and parental rights. You mistakenly blame feminism for these problems yet throughout your post argue in favour of the true source of these problems. I love how you call me soft, why am I soft? Because I am unafraid to show how I feel rather than bottling things up? Because I might express myself differently to you? You almost seem afraid of that.

        And no, feminism does not have a problem with masculinity. This has already been explained to you and I grow bored of your wilful ignorance. It’s akin to dishonesty in my book. Cut down trees, drink beer, eat steak, go to the gym, do you think any of this is a problem? The toxic element is the element that drives male suicides through the roof because of being unable or unwilling to open up about problems. This ‘real man’ bullshit, that you cling to, and that MGTOWs/MRAs fight so hard to maintain, along with the gender role bullshit you cling to, does far more harm to men than feminism ever has. You have been educated on this, it’s up to you to decide if you’ll actually listen.

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      3. Yeah pal buy the lies sold to you by feminism. Think all men must be emotionally soft and unable to handle real stress . Think women are prefect angels and have the right to mutilate molest or murder kids . No amount of anything I say will change your views . I am becoming more and more in favor of actual hard Patriarchy putting women back in their natural place. Thing ran better before second wave feminism the Family unit was still intact male authority was still respected . Females held very little power outside the home. When this shit heap collapses women will beg for things to return to the way it used to be . In rough times women always land on their knees . Hard times create strong men, Strong men create good times, Good times create weak men, Weak men create hard times.

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      4. Your willful ignoring the bad side of feminists in your ranks is a kin to you being okay with them causing worse bullshit .In my book you are no better

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      5. Who says I ignore the bad side of feminism? What I don’t do is take that and run with it and assume it fairly represents the entirety of feminism, because that is a gigantic falsehood – and something you are guilty of, over and over again.

        After all, your last few comments pretty much highlight this. In fact, they don’t even highlight this, because all you do is repeat arguments which have been refuted repeatedly, even within this set of comments. You attack feminism for issues which have nothing to do with feminism, except perhaps that feminism is trying to change the societal values that uphold the principles you complain about.

        How many more times can I point you to you that your issues with family and divorce courts are rooted in patriarchal thinking? How much more can I dumb down this argument? How many more times can I explain that your defence of gender roles and stereotypes is the actual cause of your problems with family and divorce courts, and a whole lot more? If such obvious logic will not sink in, you should confine your posts to your own echo chamber, for my patience with your repetitive ignoring of my answers is wearing thin.

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      6. See where we disagree is you see feminism as only a force for good and I see your side pushing the forced feminazation of males as bad . The way feminism attacks masculinity constantly as well as attacks traditional family dynamics is evil in my book paint how every you like . Feminism nave has gave a shit about helping men it only wants more rights and power for women and it seeks to do so by tearing men down to be subservient to women . Feminism wants to tear down all forms of masculinity and male authority and replace it with Forced femininity for male and Only females having authority . Guess what people are still free to live and think as we want your horde of misandrists has not won yet people still have free will something that will never die for as long as one person stands against the tyranny you and other feminists want to impose on males it will not win . Maybe I am a caveman with outdated values and outdated morals . I know this whole shit heap will collapse and natural aka male athority will be restored .

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      7. Congratulations on completely ignoring every point raised in this discussion, as well as demonstrating plenty of falsehoods. Since you are unable or unwilling to acknowledge your claims about feminism represent massive deceit on your part, will repeat, not that you will listen, that feminism has no issue with masculinity, only certain aspects of it, and there is no ‘forced femininity’ upon anyone. You’ve had all of this explained to you in detail and as simply as possible. Repeating your position after it’s been dismantled means you are not interested in discussing anything in good faith, so no further posts of yours will appear here.

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